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Did you come here looking for OxyELITE Pro? Then this is by farabout as “perfect” of an OxyELITE Pro clone as you’ll ever find!
It was reverse-engineered to contain the exact same dosages and extracts as OxyELITE, except Hi-Tech also added garcinia cambogia extract as well, which may further extend the incredible appetite suppression properties that everyone misses.
HydroxyElite was launched in 2014, with Hi-Tech claiming that the FDA never outright banned DMAA, and is in litigation with them. We will see how that ends up, but until it’s settled, you can buy this with no hassles.
So this is essentially the original Oxy ELITE formula plus some Garcinia. But if you’re here, you know it’s the DMAA and the other great ingredients that are doing the real work, and HydroxyElite brings exactly what the original OEP had.
It’s been selling well and reviews have been phenomenal – just like its predecessor.
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Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals – Lipodrene
Click here to try out the #1 selling DMAA-based fat burner – and for good reason – Lipodrene feels fantastic!
It’s our featured product this month, and for good reason – this stuff is intense!
Not only that, but Hi-Tech Pharma has told use that each tablet contains 35mg DMAA, which is perfectly in our preferred dose range. One tablet is seriously all you need!
There are a few versions of Lipodrene. Again, the original here
doeshave DMAA (35mg per capsule), and is used in conjunction with 25mg of Hi-Tech’s Thermo-RX ephedrine-alkaloid-free
ephedraextract.
This is topped with 200mg of PEA alkaloids from acacia rigidula extract (which serves to “replace” the ephedrine alkaloids that the FDA no longer allows), and it becomes one of the most incredible focus-enhancing, energy-blasting experiences you’ll ever have.
Note that several of the stores don’t show DMAA on the label, but it’s been in there since Lipodrene’s only re-formulation roughly six years ago.
To say the very least, this is an extremely popular fat burner, and has been for over 15 years (with only that one reformulation)! If it’s been a while since you’ve tried Lipodrene, then you just must try this version with DMAA.
If you want an even stronger version, you’ll have to try
Lipodrene Hardcore discussed below – but one tablet of this is absolutely
perfect as far as our DMAA concerns go (we like 25-50mg). Get ready to get rocked – especially if you take it on an empty stomach!
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If you want to read more about the Thermo-Z extract, see our monstrous post on Ephedrathat explains it all — including lab tests!
USPLabs OxyELITE Pro Original Formula (in and out of stock)
CRAZY popular (and effective). Still available… but not for long.
This is quite possibly the best-selling and most successful fat burner ever, and definitely topped the charts from 2010 to 2013. The combination of DMAA, a light dose of caffeine (100mg), fat blockers, and thyroid boosting ingredients made it the perfect combination of fat burning, focus, energy, and best of all, appetite suppression.
The real bottles are still occasionally still out there – but very little is available, and that means that it’s going to be expensive.
Judging by the users who are still buying it, it’s clearly worth it to some. Most people simply don’t get into the diet zone like they do with OxyELITE.
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Note: There are tons of imitation bottles on Amazon, such as “Oxy5001” or “Extreme Oxy”, which we definitely avoid. Sometimes the stores need to change the name a bit and not post a picture. We only allow the system to link to the OG OxyELITE – there were several bottles unloaded across the world by USPLabs before it was removed from the market.
APS Mesomorph
Look for it labeled as ‘Naringin Geranaburn’
This one was originally labeled as “geranium oil extract” labeled as Naringin Geranaburn. Like Jack’d Up, it’s recently been reformulated to include DMAA!
65mg DMAA per scoop!
Even better, APS has disclosed to us that each 1-scoop serving contains 65mg DMAA.
This is a hefty dose, so it’s definitely best that beginners start with a half (or less!) of a scoop (which is what the label says). Later on, you could consider moving up to 2/3 or 3/4 of a scoop.
We honestly don’t recommend going above one scoop in a day, and that’s what the labels states as well. Follow the directions!!!
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Gaspari SuperPump 250 (new 2016 version!)
The one time king of pre workouts is BACK! Gaspari Nutrition has reformulated their outstanding pre workout SuperPump 250!
The new SuperPump 250 is here, it’s in stock, and it’s the talk of the town at the end of 2016 and going into 2017! Why? Because this time, it has DMAA!
Each scoop has 250mg caffeine and 70mg DMAA, as disclosed by Rich Gaspari. This is a serious dose – more than APS Mesomorph, our current top-rated pre workout listed above!
But that’s definitely not all with this one, there’s tons of nitric oxide action from citrulline and silicate, which improve the bioavailability over regular citrulline and agmatine — meaning better pumps! And that’s only scratching the surface…
This is the must-try pre workout supplement at the end of 2016 / beginning of 2017!
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The new SuperPump 250 is LOADED and comes in both a DMAA and non-DMAA version!
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For being a new imitation, this actually looks pretty good. But keep it at two scoops max per day and don’t mix it with other stimulants.
Old-school Jack3d lovers, you’re going to love this one!
This is Hi-Tech’s Jack3d “clone”, and quite frankly, it’s easily the best one we’ve ever seen. These imitations were all over the place back in 2010, but this is one that actually made some improvements over the original!
For instance, this includes creatine nitrate and creatine HCl as its first two creatine ingredients. Those are now incredibly popular in C4 Extreme and Con-Cret, amongst other products (but those don’t have DMAA).
What’s crazy about this one is that it came out in 2014, well after everyone else stopped producing DMAA! It’s a long story discussed on our Jack’d Up page linked above and below, but the quick gist is that Hi-Tech is fighting the FDA (and even suing them) regarding the DMAA “ban”, which Hi-Tech argues was never officially put into law.
Point is, Hi-Tech was far ahead of its time on this one, and it might even be BETTER than the original Jack3d thanks to the better pumps and endurance from the nitrate in creatine nitrate!
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One thing, however: The label says to “Stir 3 scoops with 4-8 ounces of cold water”.. might not want to do that. Stay with two and a half servings max per 24 hour period with this product, now that we know how much DMAA is inside!
Want to try both? Get the “Hi-Tech DMAA Stack”
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Save when buying both, but please follow the labels and do not use them at the same time!
The above two products really are the most “sure thing” right now.
For the rest of the products listed below, note that many were reformulated to remove DMAA without changing the name. So there’s a possibility that a store is listing a 1,3-based formula, when that’s not what they have in stock. Check to confirm before you buy… or just stick with the two above.
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Off the Chain is a brand new energy amino supplement from Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals that combines aminos with caffeine AND a nice little dose of 20mg DMAA!
Here’s one that’s different from everything else on this page!
Off the Chain is in the category we call energy aminos — amino acid supplements with just a bit of energy.
These are typically taken as “light pre workouts” or mid-afternoon pick-me-ups — a little bit of energy alongside some aminos to keep you and your muscles fresh
Launched in March of 2016, Off the Chain features 5g amino acids, and Hi-Tech disclosed the stimulants for us in each scoop:
Off the Chain’s Ingredients – This is the version with DMAA. It includes 100mg of caffeine and 20mg of DMAA per scoop.
- Caffeine: 100mg
- 1,3 Dimethylamylamine: 20mg
Absolutely perfect!
In fact, if you’ve never tried this stimulant before, and want to test the waters very lightly, this is the product we’d recommend at one level scoop! We can almost guarantee it’s gonna feel good.
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iForce Dexaprine (original formula!)
Could it be?? This is the original Dexaprine formula. It was so strong that most people had to snap the tablets in half! This is a potent mix of citrus alkaloids, 1-3, caffeine, green tea, and the dioodo thyroid metabolites.
Oh my! In December of 2015, iForce Nutrition re-released the original formula of their Dexaprine fat burner. This is for a limited time, so don’t expect it to last long!
This stuff is strong. Seriously. Possibly the strongest stuff on this entire page.
Dexaprine contains two thyroid metabolites, 3,5-Diiiodo-L-Thyronine and 3,3-Diiiodo-L-Thyronine, which boost the metabolism and we’ve noticed are incredible appetite suppressants.
Mark our words: Dexaprine is for experts only! As in, snap a tablet in half for your first few times. You need to know your stimulant tolerance with this one!
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Lipo-6 Black Hers (Old Formula with DMAA)
Click the image to go directly to the store with the offer!
One of the stores found a cache of nearly 650 bottles of the old version of Lipo-6 Black Hers by Nutrex Research!! This was one of the best selling ones back in its heyday!
Unfortunately, we don’t know the doses of anything, and it expires on October 2014, but it’s priced to sell! At the time of writing, it’s just $4.99!
In the price widget below, look for the version with DMAA – there are many new versions of this product that are newer.
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APS White Lightning
Ahead of its time with Coleus Forskohlii!
The sister product to Mesomorph mentioned above, this also has the primary ingredient described as Geranaburn (geranium oil extract) Naringin.
Interesting to see them ahead of their time here, including coleus forskohlii.
Forskolin is now far more accepted as a very good fat burning ingredient, and is in more and more new fat burners.
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APS Phenadrine
Phenadrine is older than the two APS products above, and has a very aggressive label. Not only does it have DMAA, it also has PEA derivatives from acacia rigidula alkaloids, methylsynephrine (also from the Acacia extract), followed by the tamer yet still effective focus-boosting N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine, caffeine, and finally theobromine.
If you’re a PEA lover (it’s a quick mood booster), you should enjoy this, but the serving is for one capsule and you won’t want to exceed that at any one given time!
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Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Fastin
Fastin is a nearly-legendary fat burner that’s been around for ages, and for quite some time, the latest formulation has come with 1,3 inside.
The full formula is 100mg caffeine with a 245mg “Thermo-Rx” proprietary formula of Phenylethylamine HCL, Methylsynephrine HCL, Theobromine Anhydrous, 1,3-Dimethylamylamine HCL, Synephrine HCL, N-Methyl-Phenylethylamine HCL, and Yohimbine HCL.
Hi-Tech states to take 1-2 tablets in the morning and 1 tablet after lunch. Do not exceed 4 tablets daily.
Unlike many of the other Hi-Tech fat burners on this page, Fastin is ephedra-free.
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HellFire EPH 150 will get you the most Thermo-Z in a day. But make sure you get the Thermo-Z based version, new in 2015 (90 Capsules)!
When Innovative Labs was bought by Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals, HellFire EPH 150 kept the same 150mg caffeine formula, as well as 150mg ephedra. However, now, the ephedra has been changed from the lesser-known Ephdran to the better-known / lab-tested / FDA-approved Thermo-Z, we’re now comfortably happy to have it litsed on this page!
But more importantly… after the Innovative Labs acquisition, HellFire was now reformulated to bring DMAA back!
If you’re interested in testing ephedra – which is now legal and ephedrine-free – this is the best way to get the most Thermo-Z bang for your buck. Think of this extract as an advanced form of green tea – the ephedrine alkaloids have been removed, so the actual stimulation is going to come from the DMAA and the hard-hitting acacia rigidula alkaloids.
Note: It’s the 90 Capsules size that contains the 1,3 after the Hi-Tech reformulation!
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Innovative Labs Black Mamba HyperRush
Black Mamba is a comprehensive, ephedra-based fat burner with a higher-than-average caffeine dose.
In the same vein as HellFire mentioned above, Black Mamba HyperRush is a new version of the Black Mamba fat burner that Hi-Tech Pharma upgraded with DMAA when they purchased Innovative Labs.
This one also has a ‘boosted’ dose of the ephedrine-free ephedra extract – at 65mg – but it’s the stim profile we’re most interested in here.
With the mixture of 200mg caffeine and 150mg acacia alkaloids, alongside the DMAA, this is going to pack a wallop. Most of the other fat burners here have lower doses of caffeine (because the other stims like 1,3 easily pick up the slack), but Black Mamba is a bit different in that aspect.
Because of that, consider this “Advanced User Territory”. Definitely not the first fat burner you want to ever try… but it could be the one the experienced caffeine-lovers are looking for!
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Innovative Labs – Wicked Pre Workout
New in January 2016!
There weren’t enough pre workout supplements on this list, so Innovative Labs also went and put together a new one that hit the market in January of 2016!
Ingredient Disclosure!
Innovative Labs has confirmed the two key ingredient doses:
This is going to pack a punch – we’d urge you to start at one-half to two-thirds of a scoop!!!!!
Also, don’t get too fooled by the label — 2-Aminoethanesulfronic acid Silicate is just taurine.
Besides those proprietary caffeine and Methylhexamine Hcl doses that are now confirmed above, there’s also Rauwolfia serpentina extract, otherwise known as alpha-yohimbine, which may make for a nice and aggressive workout experience!
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Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals – Black Widow
Knowing that you have 25mg of ephedra, you can understand mostly what’s in here. They’re all at dosages of less than 25 or 20mg, so that’s good news.
We now have confirmation that new ephedra supplements that are still legal on the market have the ephedrine alkaloids removed, so there shouldn’t be too much stim added from the ephedra side of things.
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Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals – Lipodrene Hardcore
For serious stimulant tolerances only!
This is yet another fat burner that combines the epic blend of 1-3 dimethyl with ephedra and quite a few other other stimulants, including those from acacia rigidula. If for some reason Lipodrene isn’t enough for you, then this Hardcore version will knock your socks off.
Lipodrene and Lipodrene Hardcore are unbelievably popular weight loss supplements, but seriously, you should only use this one if you’ve already run a bottle of standard Lipodrene and want more.
Those of you who just don’t seem to feel anything else will want to try this though, and then report back!
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Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals – Lipodrene Xtreme
To finish out the Lipodrene family, Lipodrene Xtreme is the one that has DMAA, but no ephedra. It also has various aggressive PEA extracts from Acacia Rigidula.
Interestingly, some stores show a label that claims the 1,3 dose as geranium extract 70:1 [leaves] [yielding 1,3-dimethylamylamine HCL], something we’ve never seen before.
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Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals – Stimerex-ES
Ironically, the Stimerex with added Ephedra is also the one with some added 1,3… or so state some of the stores that have it in stock.
The vast amount of stimulants in here seems very aggressive. This is quite likely a very potent product, but hey, that’s exactly what some of you with crazy strong stimulant tolerances want. Still, be careful with this one!
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Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals – Stimerex Hardcore
Interesting
This one also has a ton of stimulants, but at least seems a bit lighter than the one above because every ingredient has 25mg or less. In the product above, the acacia rigidula extract was much more, with 125mg.
This seems like a slightly very reasonable choice, but it does still have a lot of different stims in it.
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Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals – Yellow Scorpion
Last one by Hi-Tech Pharma, we promise!
We’re not sure if ingesting a product named “yellow scorpion” is the best idea, but apparently “Black Widow” worked out, so why not this?
At this point, these Hi-Tech products are a blur. They all have a bunch of the same stuff, just in different order and with different extracts.
This one changes it up with a touch of chromium and uses kola nut extract for its caffeine source.
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iForce Maximize V2 (out of stock last we checked)
Before there was Max Out… Before there was CONQUER… Before there was Mazimize Intense… but after there was Maximize……….. there was Maximize V2!
And one store seems to have it in stock as we write this, definitely with the good stuff in it.
iForce sure does keep the pre workouts rolling along!
Accelerated Sport Nutraceuticals Phenastan Hardcore
It’s appreciated that this is an open formula. There’s 15mg of “geranium” per 225mg of caffeine, so this is a nice light dosage for one capsule.
There’s a lot of other stimulants, so I’d urge you to stay at one capsule, enjoy the ride, and make it last.
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Greymark Pharmaceuticals Octadrene
What’s this? A brand new fat burner NOT from the Hi-Tech Family?! Contains no Octodrine.
Launched in March of 2016, this is a new brand that we know nothing about. They clearly have some balls, as they’re one of the few non Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals companies willing to produce a DMAA supplement.
It contains both 28mg ephedra and an undisclosed amount of 1,3, as well as some PEA, synephrine, and rauwolscine. It will likely be extremely strong. The honest truth is that we don’t trust any new brand as much as we trust Hi-Tech, so take caution.
Does not contain Octodrine!
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USPLabs Jack3d (in and out of stock)
Some believe it’s STILL the one true king
Whoa, it looks like someone has unleashed a stash of Jack3d in late August 2015 that they’ve kept under wraps for quite a while. By the time you read this, they might be gone again, so see the price widget below to check if it’s still available!
It’s obviously no longer $20, but if you’re slumping and want a fired up workout for a month (or need to write your entire thesis), this just might be the kick you need.
It’s been six months since we’ve seen any available, so this update has us impressed.
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This was the undeniable king of pre workouts from 2010-2012. There really isn’t any comparison — so often imitated but never duplicated!
VPX Redline Black on Blue v2 (Out of stock in 2015)
This one went as fast as it came. VPX Redline has always been high stimulant, so adding 1,3 to the mix seems like insanity. We don’t know anyone who’s taken it, but we’re willing to bet this stuff is wicked strong.
Proceed with caution.
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Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Fastin-XR (Usually Out of Stock)
Fastin-XR seems to be out of stock everywhere, but you can still find the standard Fastin above.
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This entire situation makes the products above the easiest way to get your last purchase in, for the time being.
The FDA has been vigilant in removing DMAA from the market, but at the manufacturer / distributor level. They removed nearly $2 million worth from Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals in November of 2013,[3] which is what spurred a portion of the lawsuit discussed above. Interestingly, the FDA never served Hi-Tech with a warning letter, and Hi-Tech argues that the FDA apparently tried to limit their due process.
A more recent warning letter would be the one that RegeneSlim was ‘forced’ to recall in August 2014.[4]
This is a relatively strong stimulant. It behaves slightly similarly to ephedrine (which you can also get in limited amounts at your local pharmacy), and it does raise blood pressure.[2]
Taking too much is never a good idea – stick with one serving or less of any of the above products.
The FDA does not say that it is safe.[1]
Interestingly, a 2013 Department of Defense report stated that serious adverse events that occurred could not be causally linked to DMAA use. The review interviewed 1,700 military service members and is 109 pages long.[6] If you’re really interested in this compound, that report is worth reading.
Make no mistake: we love this stimulant when used properly and in low dosages (25mg or less in a day). We also believe it is your right to use what you want, so long as you know the risks.
This is what leaves it in the legal gray area. It’s not completely illegal, the FDA just doesn’t want it as a supplement. Time will tell.
The battle will be interesting, to say the least. You can read more of the details on the links above.
As a note, several other products also use “geranium oil extract” to signify the ingredient. It’s highly unlikely that the ingredients were actually extracted from geranium, as most DMAA in these supplements is likely synthetically created (which we’re okay with, as long as we know the dose).
Many consider it to be “DMAA-lite”, but it’s clearly not natural and has been removed from the market.
Interestingly, Hi-Tech Pharma never produced anything with AMP Citrate in it – they do not believe it has enough basis in nature like DMAA and geranium do.
There’s not a ton of information out there about this AMP Citrate, unfortunately, so DMAA seems to be the better-researched option.
We’re still yet to see if DMHA will take off, and DMAA is admittedly more intense, but it’s worth knowing about and following throughout 2016.
Other than that, companies have been working hard to get the same focus and feel by including small doses of several different stimulants (such as higenamine, green tea extracts, yohimbe, theobromine, synephrine, N-Methyl-Tyramine, hordenine, PEA from acacia rigidula, etc) and nootropics (cognitive enhancers such as choline, huperzine A, bacopa monnieri, L-theanine, etc..).
It’s all in the blend, after all.
